Picking pricing
In this REWORK podcast episode, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson walk through the pricing models they have tried, from project fees to per-seat plans to a flat cap. They explain why they avoid enterprise deals and discounts, and why they trust gut feel over heavy testing.
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Key takeaways
- Fried says pricing for an untested product starts with a number that seems reasonable, feels affordable and is something you might pay yourself, while you keep costs low.
- Hansson says a six-month A/B test showed Basecamp's flat $99 price gaining revenue, but years later fewer signups meant fewer invites and less viral growth, so judge pricing over a long time horizon.
- Basecamp caps its price at $299 a month for unlimited seats so it never chases whales, because Hansson says big enterprise deals warp the company and fill the product with one-customer checkboxes.
- Fried says 37signals avoids coupon codes and rarely changes prices on existing customers, so buyers don't wait for a sale or feel burned by a later price drop.
- Hansson says a two-and-a-half-month statistical effort to find Basecamp's price ended with a gut call of $15 a seat or $299 flat, and he warns that over-testing leaves prices constantly shifting.
Who it's for
Founders of small software or subscription products who are setting a first price or rethinking per-seat pricing and wondering whether to chase enterprise deals.
Why it's worth your time
It is a candid look at pricing mistakes, reversals and trade-offs from founders with decades of experience, and its advice to test with your own buyers and retest later holds regardless of product.
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